Canucks have done the heavy lifting for their rebuildin Here is your first Forum Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:08 am
by elvafeng • 4 Posts
Luca Sbisa was blanched white, choking on his words, still carrying heavy emotion by the time the game had ended.
What he wanted to know most, however, was how his friend and teammate, Philip Larsen, was doing.
Early reports were encouraging. He was awake, responding and moving his limbs.
“ After the hit , he wasn’t moving. I’ve never seen anyone like that on the ice,” Sbisa said. “I don’t even know how he’s doing.
“How is he doing?
“It was just scary. To be honest, I couldn’t really focus the rest of the period.”
The replays from Hall on Larsen will be pored over, again and again. There will be those who will call it clean, and through the chest. They will say things like Hall let up, and he may have, and Larsen should have kept his head up, and there’s no question he lost track of Hall, or never saw him.
And there will be those who will call for a suspension, one for multiple games for a repeat offender.
And then there are those in Vancouver who believe it was dirty http://www.vancanucksjersey.com/henrik-sedin-jersey-c-4.html, probably predatory, and a borderline head shot for which the NHL should suspend, and could suspend, but won’t.
None of it mattered to the players on the team http://www.vancanucksjersey.com/sven-baertschi-jersey-c-6.html, however. That was for another day.
“This is such a beautiful sport but there are things that happen which bring you back down to earth and humble you very quickly and this was one of them,” Gudbranson said.
“It was a very difficult thing to watch as a teammate and a friend, to see someone lying there like that.
“It was scary to see how quickly the first responders got out there Markus Granlund Jersey, there was no thought to them coming out.
“You hope he’s doing all right, his parents are doing all right and so is his girlfriend.
“You hope they are all OK.”
No one will ever forget Ryan Miller saving Stecher.
Tonight, Markstrom did something similar, hovering over the motionless, prone Larsen as a scrum erupted around him.
It was an incredibly dangerous situation, with skates and bodies and sticks everywhere around Larsen’s head and neck. Maybe even more dangerous than the hit itself.
“It was the scariest part to me,” Guddy said. “That scrum with him lying there in the middle of it. Marky did a heck of job trying to protect him.
“He did his best. That was tough. His head was bouncing around there and guys skates were everywhere.”
Forget the close up, slow motion, in tight replays, the best way to understand what happened is to watch the play in real time from a wide angle.
Larsen sees PA Parenteau as he glides through the middle of the ice preparing for Sbisa to reverse the puck, D to D.
What he doesn’t see, is a subtle Hall creep down the back side. Hall does see the entire play develop and knows Larsen doesn’t see him.
There are a couple of questions before you get into the head shot debate.
He let up at the very end, could he have let up sooner?
Is it on him to do think that way?
Is it unusual that Hall would be in that spot?
“ Larsen lost track of him for sure,” Willie said. “But usually a guy isn’t that deep along the wall. Usually a forecheck would be coming from the front of the net or down low.
“He was already on the wall. Usually he wouldn’t be in that spot.”
Sbisa said “I just reversed it, I didn’t really see how much time he had or what.”
sbisa death pass
Markstrom said Larsen was talking before he left the ice.
“When I turned around and looked, after the pass, I saw the guy coming and I tried to scream at him,” Markstrom said.
“One coming from one way, and the other from another way.”
Next, of course, the NHL will come to a conclusion on whether the principle point of contact was the head.
This replay suggests no
This replay suggests yes.
What did it remind most of us of?
That hit on Seabrook was one of the few times Torres wasn’t suspended, by the way.
Markstrom wasn’t just trying to shield Larsen from sharpened steel, he was also trying to box out amateur paparazzi who for some reason wanted to take pics of a man who wasn’t moving.
There was one tool in particular. Even his buddy was trying to curtail his itchy need for photographic evidence of what he just saw.
When you watch the clip, Granlund seems to tell Markstrom about the dude with the phone. Markstrom first blocks him out, but then reasons with him to put it down.
But after that, Markstrom turns around and the fan gives him a, well, salute.
I’d say it’s all Jersey, but that’s not fair.
It was all douche though.
The big trade deadline deal where Vancouver exploits some ridiculously desperate playoff contender and uncorks a top pick or a top prospect — or both dammit — for a vet on an expiring contract is never going to happen, is it?
There’s no point in re visiting last season, except to say you can start expecting this one to go similarly http://www.vancanucksjersey.com/daniel-sedin-jersey-c-10.html,
That’s the way it seems, as Jim Benning vowed here in New Jersey this week he would not be trading any of his players who have no trade clauses, unless they initiate the move.
“I’m not doing it. I’m not going to any one of them to ask them to waive their no trades,” Benning said. “If they come to me, I will accommodate it and find a trade.
“But otherwise I’m not going to ask any of them to waive.”
This is a game changer and definitely alters the speculation which was surely going to engulf the team as it approached the deadline this year.
The Canucks have eight players with either NTCs or no movement clauses. They include the Sedins, Alex Edler, Jannik Hansen, Ryan Miller, Alex Burrows, Brandon Sutter and Loui Eriksson.
They are all staying unless their agents go to management and ask otherwise, Benning said.
Many of us have opined that Burrows could be a good chip, and trading Hansen is something the team may want to explore, because he’s over 30 years old, has great value and as it stands now the team will not be able to protect both Granlund and Baertschi in the expansion draft.
Then there’s Edler, who is 30 and still represents one of the Canucks better options to get some more offence.
“We need him in this lineup,” Benning said. “We need Hansen’s speed. And you’ve seen what Burrows has done playing with Horvat and Baertschi. He’s been really good for them.”
When asked if this represents a philosophical shift for a GM who has asked Bieksa, Hamhuis, Vrbata and Garrison to all waive NTCs in the past, Benning said it was not. He is still willing to do it, just not this year.
“It’s about these players. These are the guys we want to keep and build our young players around,” he said.
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BEST THIS IS REALLY GOING TO PISS YOU OFF
For a moment there, I thought the Sutter Sedin empire had crashed and burned. I was excited to help the clean up crew, and start anew, fresh with Eriksson Sedin Sedin again.
I said some things, you said some things, but let’s start over.
I think even Daniel Sedin thought that’s the way it was going to go,
“Nothing happened with Sutter . I don’t think we even had a scoring chance with him ,” Daniel said.
For yet another game, Willie shook up his top line, and wouldn’t you know, once he did it the Sedins scored.
Surely, this would be the new era, no longer would we watch the twins lose the possession battle at a nearly unprecedented rate.
“I feel a little bit that Eriksson with the twins gives us the best chance at offence,” Desjardins said.
“And they scored the last game they were together and they scored tonight. When we get behind, I see it as a combination I can use sometimes.
“The whole game, I like Sutter there. I think it just depends on the game and how the guys are playing.”
BEST GET OVER IT
If you do need to still get over POS and all he has said about the Canucks and Vancouver, you can always revel in how odd it is that the current Canucks team is among the most hated in the league.
Wonder what would happen to Burrows if he was in downtown Toronto on a summer day.
Maybe something like this
Burrows, by the way, got a penalty for that.
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BEST LEST WE FORGET
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BEST NEUTRAL OBSERVER
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BEST WATCH IT AGAIN AT SPEED
botchford pic.twitter.com/yadXiLa378 — Jordee theJordee December 7, 2016
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That’s one of about 500 R2D2 replicas made around the world by some club that clones R2D2s.
Miller had a badass collection of Star Wars toys too, turns out. The rattled off like 25 toys he had has a kid, including the Ewok Village.
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BEST IF DRANCER WAS STILL AROUND
You know he’d geek out on that Star Wars stuff and say something like,
“That makes total sense for Miller.
ya, you have to be a hardcore Star Wars guy to get it.
Who knew that botchford was into Star Wars Cosplay? patersonjeff canucks pic.twitter.com/DTdGrQPaRH — Tron Funkinblow tron funkinblow December 6, 2016
It’s been several days but many around the league are still buzzing about Linden’s recent comments, especially where he said the Canucks couldn’t do a tear it down rebuild because of … the Sedins.
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Of all the reactions to this, I think Ferraro had the best angle on TSN 1050 in Toronto Monday
“A couple of years ago, when they came in, they signed Miller and Vrbata. The Sedins had just re upped. My opinion at the time, and it’s been re enforced by what’s happened since, is that they needed to start to rebuild then, instead of signing Miller and Vrbata.
“They thought they could contend but the distance between Vancouver and Chicago and the California teams had already started to spread.
“Had you gone to the Sedins and said ‘We’re going to tear this down and you’re going to be the last pieces. We’re going to get younger and faster and we hope by year three we’re considerably different.’
“You wouldn’t have had to deal with anything with them. They would have gone to work. You think they go out there and think they’re Stanley Cup contenders?
“They’re not idiots.”
BEST REMINDER FOR THE TKACHUK TRUTHERS
We’ll see how it works out, but you always, with rare exception, have to take the highest player on your board and Juolevi was it for the Canucks.
They did not follow this method with the Virtanen draft, however.
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botchford – the return of Dark Willie. pic.twitter.com/ZfSKok43Ez — Michael Cantwell MCantwell175 December 7, 2016
BEST iMAC KNEW
imac was displeased with a tweet which has been making the rounds this week.
He said he felt it “ridiculed” him and was a “biased summary … without providing context.”
This is the tweet in question
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It’s become important, because not only is this a strong take people are going to react to, other analysts around the city are weighing in.
Is the rebuild done? Is it close? Is the D fixed?
imac was correct in the sense the “LOL” was uncalled for, but was it a “biased summary” or did Dan the Stat Man manage to accurately assess imac’s provocative take, which, as far as I know, was only on TSN 1040, in under 14o characters?
I went back and listened to the audio from post game Saturday, and here’s what imac said
“They’ve done their development the Canucks .
“They’ve done a poor job of getting their message out, but honestly I think there’s people who have decided what the team is, and they’re not interested in whatever their message would be now, conveyed to them.
“They’ve done most of the heavy lifting on the rebuild. I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
“This is essentially the team, with Brock Boeser next year, with Olli Juolevi next year, with somebody they’re going to get, probably in the top ten, at the draft this spring.
“Really, what do they have to trade?”
That’s pretty much what the tweet said.
And the crazy thing is, when you read imac’s comments above and do it with the context of what Benning revealed earlier here in The Provies, you will be hard pressed to draw any other conclusion than this one
imac was absolutely right.
It seems to be the way the organization views this.
The chairs could be shifted, especially if the Canucks pull off the long anticipated D for forward trade they’ve talked about.
But other than that, is what you see going to be what you get?
Evidence is mounting, that’s for sure.
Now, Benning has now said he will not approach his players with NTCs, some claim it doesn’t matter because the Sedins can’t be traded.
That last part is just not true
I know of at least two teams which would likely make bids for the Sedins at their full 14 million freight — although it’s something that may need to wait until the offseason — and there would be others if the Canucks were to retain some of that salary.
If the Canucks retain half, you get a entire line basically for 7 million.
BEST NIGHT CAP
Bro Jake to McKenzie “Some believe the Canucks have done the heavy lifting for their rebuild, but do you think the Canucks still have a lot do with this rebuild?”
McKenzie “Oh yeah.
RE: Canucks have done the heavy lifting for their rebuildin Here is your first Forum Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:05 pm
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